Why Gen Z Youth Ministers Plan to Leave in 5 Years | Charlotte McCorquodale, Ep 078

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86% of youth and young adult ministry leaders report a high level of joy, and 72% of Gen Z leaders expect to stay five years or less. Dr. Charlotte McCorquodale explains why, and what pastors and dioceses can do about it. In this conversation, Christopher Wesley and Dr. Charlotte McCorquodale of Ministry Training Source, our first three-time guest, talk about her new report, The Stack We Carry, the follow-up to Illuminating Trends. They cover three pressure points (more, more, more; leaders who plan to leave within five years; and the push to reinvent ministry), job descriptions, defining success beyond attendance, pay, transitions, and the first conversations leaders, pastors and dioceses can start. Full show notes and resources: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-078-why-gen-z-youth-ministers-plan-to-leave-in-5-years-with-charlotte-mccorquodale Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC307YUsy2980SICsZElRPGA CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open: joyful, committed, and still leaving 1:26 Welcome and announcements 4:47 Meet Charlotte McCorquodale 7:19 Why a follow-up to Illuminating Trends 10:54 The stack of stones: what ministry leaders carry 15:57 Why Gen Z leaders plan to leave within five years 22:04 Pressure point: more, more, more 29:31 Pressure point: shifting realities and reinventing ministry 35:32 Starting the conversation: questions for leaders and pastors 39:00 Job descriptions and defining success 43:56 What dioceses can do 46:17 Retention, pay and the pay gap 53:17 Turnover, transitions and healthy teams 56:59 Why Charlotte wrote this for diocesan leaders 59:10 One next step: start with your peers 1:03:02 Where to find the report 1:05:28 Closing thoughts RESOURCES MENTIONED Ministry Training Source: https://ministrytrainingsource.org The Stack We Carry: https://www.ministrytrainingsource.org/resources/product/p_3388920 The Stack We Carry Conversation Series, From Pressure Points to Balancing Actions: Where Do We Begin? A three- or five-session resource series to help pastors or supervisors, ministry leaders and teams understand the pressure points, discuss their local realities, choose a balancing action and identify practical next steps. Each session includes adaptable presentations, speaker notes and handouts: https://www.ministrytrainingsource.org/resources/product/p_3385947 Illuminating Trends and other research reports: https://ministrytrainingsource.org/research Episode 055, Illuminating Trends with Charlotte McCorquodale: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-055-illuminating-trends-what-the-data-says-about-the-future-of-ministry-with-charlotte-mccorquodale Episode 014, The Importance of Forming Pastoral Ministry Leaders with Charlotte McCorquodale: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-014-the-importance-of-forming-pastoral-ministry-leaders-w/-charlotte-mccorquodale National Catholic Youth Conference: https://nfcym.org/ncyc CONNECT WITH CHARLOTTE Website: https://ministrytrainingsource.org Email: charlotte@ministrytrainingsource.org ASK JENNY A QUESTION Submit a question for a future episode at http://thechurchpodcast.org/ MORE FROM MARATHON YOUTH MINISTRY Ministry Coach: https://ministryally.app?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep078 M2GO: training videos, templates and resources for your ministry team: https://marathonyouthministry.com/ministry2go?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep078 MYM store: https://marathonyouthministry.store The Church Podcast is a member of the NFCYM Podcast Network: https://nfcym.org/podcastnetwork/ More from the show: http://thechurchpodcast.org/ Recorded on Riverside (affiliate link): https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=christopher-wesley Produced by Marathon Youth Ministry and Stephen Herrera of Be Well Creative: https://bewellcreative