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The Church Podcast
Each episode features conversations with people from various backgrounds, exploring the real side of ministry. We discuss insights and learnings from the local and national landscape, enriching our understanding of the ministry's impact.
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Episode 032 – Digital Accompaniment and Fearless Ministry with Ela Milewska
In this lively and wisdom-filled episode, Christopher Wesley sits down with Ela Milewska, Director of Franciscan Media. With more than 30 years of experience spanning parish, diocesan, national, and now digital ministry, Ela shares her journey from a small-town Catholic upbringing to shaping how the Church engages people online today. Ela opens up about her path into ministry, the mentors and experiences that formed her, and what she’s learning about digital accompaniment in reaching the “middle of the pew” Catholic—those who show up but often feel unseen. She unpacks how Franciscan spirituality, the theology of Duns Scotus, and her own hard-earned wisdom guide her work in helping people discover they are truly “enough” and deeply loved by God. This conversation is full of practical insights and hopeful vision: from embracing intentionality and professionalism in ministry, to avoiding burnout by remembering ministry is personal—but not to be taken personally. Key Takeaways A Reluctant but Faithful Call: Despite attempts to pursue other careers, Ela continually found herself drawn back to ministry, discovering God’s call woven into her life. Formation and Language Matter: Graduate and doctoral studies gave Ela not just knowledge but the language and confidence to engage ministry with depth. Intentional Accompaniment: What once came naturally in parish life must now be taught and modeled—welcoming, listening, and walking with others with purpose. Digital Accompaniment: Franciscan Media is creating journeys that meet people where they are and connect them to real-life communities. The “Middle of the Pew” Catholic: Many feel unseen, juggling family, work, and faith. They are often most ready for accompaniment if the Church listens with compassion. Professionalism as a Calling: Being prepared, accountable, and intentional honors God and those we serve. For more on Ela visit us at https://thechurchpodcast.org
Episode 031 - Questions We Should Be Asking
In this solo mini-episode of The Church Podcast, Christopher Wesley reflects on three powerful questions that every ministry leader should wrestle with at some point in their journey. These aren't just practical or strategy-based—they’re personal, spiritual, and essential for long-term sustainability in ministry. Sharing from his own experience with burnout, transition, and rediscovering identity, Chris invites listeners to pause and consider what really drives their work—and their worth. If you’ve ever felt lost in your role, struggled to hand over leadership, or wondered how to keep growing in your own faith, this episode is for you.
Episode 030 - Radical Solidarity: Listening, Healing, and Hope with Meghan Fiebelkorn
Join me, Christopher Wesley, on The Church Podcast for a profound conversation in Episode 030: Radical Solidarity: Listening, Healing, and Hope with Meghan Fiebelkorn. This episode dives into the crucial topic of supporting survivors of sexual abuse by Catholic leaders. Meghan, from Awake Community, shares her journey from parish ministry to advocating for survivors, emphasizing the importance of radical solidarity and preferential option for the vulnerable. We explore the ongoing issues within the Church, the need for credible witness, and how to be present for those who have been harmed. Listen as we discuss the power of empathy, listening, and standing with the marginalized, offering hope and healing through authentic Gospel living. This is a conversation that challenges us to confront difficult truths while remaining committed to transformation and love.
Episode 029 – Reboot 115: Combating The Issue Of Staff Turnover
Episode 029 – Reboot: Combating The Issue Of Staff Turnover In this special Reboot edition, we revisit one of the most relevant and enduring challenges in ministry: staff turnover. Originally recorded as part of The Church Podcast with co-host John Rinaldo, this episode (#115)—first aired at the start of 2020—dives into the systemic and personal reasons why turnover remains one of the most pressing issues in the Church today. Chris and John explore the deeper implications of high turnover rates, especially among younger ministry leaders, and ask tough questions about how parishes and dioceses can better support, invest in, and retain good people. Drawing from years of ministry experience, they break down the key causes of turnover—low pay, burnout, lack of clarity or purpose, toxic team culture, and inadequate leadership support. They also offer tangible, pastoral strategies to combat the cycle of constant transition, such as: Clarifying expectations and vision Promoting a team-based (not siloed) staff culture Prioritizing professional development Modeling sustainable work habits Encouraging ownership of the issue across the entire parish community Whether you're a pastor, diocesan leader, or lay minister, this rebooted episode is a timely and challenging reminder: solving the turnover crisis requires all of us. For more show notes visit us at thechurchpodcast.org