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World Youth Day 2027 in Seoul: How to Prepare Your Group | Verso Ministries, Ep 075
"There aren't many people walking barefoot to Rome, but there are people in middle seats." Joan Watson and John Paul Lichon of Verso Ministries on preparing pilgrims for World Youth Day in Seoul. John Paul Lichon, founder and CEO of Verso Ministries, and Joan Watson, its pilgrim formation manager, talk about what makes a pilgrimage different from a trip, how to prepare pilgrims for the sacrifices along the way, the "so what?" question every pilgrim should answer, the story of the Korean Church, how to bring the whole parish along, and why you don't have to fly overseas to make a pilgrimage. Full show notes and resources: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-075-world-youth-day-2027-in-seoul-how-to-prepare-your-group-with-verso-ministries Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC307YUsy2980SICsZElRPGA CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open: "Parts are gonna hurt" 1:01 Welcome and introduction 2:32 Meet John Paul, Joan and Verso Ministries 7:09 Why a pilgrimage is not a vacation 11:41 Sacrifice, setbacks and lost luggage 17:00 Coming home: the "so what?" question 22:51 Starting Verso with $25 and a state website 28:29 World Youth Day in Seoul and the Korean Church 35:52 Bringing the whole parish along 41:49 What gives them hope: "Take courage" RESOURCES MENTIONED Verso Ministries: https://versoministries.com/ Lead a group with Verso: https://versoministries.com/lead-a-group/ In Via podcast: https://versoministries.com/in-via/ Verso's startup story: https://versoministries.com/versos-startup-story/ World Youth Day Seoul 2027: https://wydseoul.org/ Joan Watson, Making a Pilgrimage: A Companion for Catholics: https://www.joanwatson.faith/ CONNECT WITH JOAN AND JOHN PAUL Verso: https://versoministries.com/ and https://www.instagram.com/catholictravels/ Joan: https://www.joanwatson.faith/ and https://www.instagram.com/joan.m.watson/ SUPPORT OUR WORLD YOUTH DAY PILGRIMS Marathon Youth Ministry is helping the Sisters of Bon Secours and the Diocese of San Diego take about 70 pilgrims to Seoul with Verso. Please pray for us, and support a pilgrim at https://wydbonsecours.org/donate World Youth Day collection at the MYM store (proceeds support pilgrims): https://marathonyouthministry.store?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep075 MORE FROM MARATHON YOUTH MINISTRY M2GO: training videos, templates and resources for your ministry team: https://marathonyouthministry.com/ministry2go?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep075 Ministry Coach: https://ministryally.app?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep075 MYM store: https://marathonyouthministry.store?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep075 The Church Podcast is a member of the NFCYM Podcast Network: https://nfcym.org/podcastnetwork/ More from the show: http://thechurchpodcast.org/ Recorded on Riverside (affiliate link): https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=christopher-wesley Produced by Marathon Youth Ministry and Stephen Herrera of Be Well Creative: https://bewellcreative.co/
Why No One Shows Up to Your Youth Ministry (and What to Do) | Jenny O’Neill, Ep 074
The vision is good, the program is good, "and you get two people to sign up." Jenny O'Neill of the Archdiocese of Philadelphia asks Christopher the questions youth ministers are asking. In this first episode of a new segment, Jenny O'Neill, associate director of the Office for Ministry with Youth in the Archdiocese of Philadelphia, puts her questions to Christopher Wesley: what he stopped believing about youth ministry, why good events go empty, how to tell whether a ministry needs more time or isn't working, how to keep teens on fire after NCYC or Steubenville, and how to know when it's time to move on. Full show notes and resources: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-074-why-no-one-shows-up-to-your-youth-ministry-with-jenny-oneill Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC307YUsy2980SICsZElRPGA CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open: praying for a snowstorm 0:41 Welcome and a new segment: questions from Jenny 2:10 Meet Jenny O'Neill 5:50 What Christopher stopped believing about youth ministry 10:50 Jenny's faith story and the power of invitation 15:29 Good vision, good program, and nobody shows up 23:10 Does it need more time, or is it not working? 27:29 When teens come home on fire from NCYC or Steubenville 31:58 Discouragement and knowing when to move on 37:04 What gives Jenny hope RESOURCES MENTIONED Office for Ministry with Youth, Archdiocese of Philadelphia: https://phillyomy.org/ YCOPI (Youth Co-leadership Protagonism Initiative): https://phillyomy.org/ycopi/ Philadelphia Catholic Youth Conference (PCYC): https://phillyomy.org/philadelphia-catholic-youth-conference-pcyc/ National Catholic Youth Conference: https://nfcym.org/ncyc Steubenville Youth Conferences: https://steubenvilleconferences.com/ Life Teen: https://lifeteen.com/ CONNECT WITH JENNY Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/phillyomy/ Website: https://phillyomy.org/ ASK JENNY A QUESTION Submit a question for a future episode at http://thechurchpodcast.org/ MORE FROM MARATHON YOUTH MINISTRY Ministry Coach: https://ministryally.app?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep074 M2GO: training videos, templates and resources for your ministry team: https://marathonyouthministry.com/ministry2go?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep074 MYM store: https://marathonyouthministry.store?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep074 The Church Podcast is a member of the NFCYM Podcast Network: https://nfcym.org/podcastnetwork/ More from the show: http://thechurchpodcast.org/ Recorded on Riverside (affiliate link): https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=christopher-wesley Produced by Marathon Youth Ministry and Stephen Herrera of Be Well Creative: https://bewellcreative.co/
Reimagining Faith Formation: Teach the Parents, Too | Patrick Donovan, Ep 073
"Teach my children the prayers, but teach me how to pray." Patrick Donovan of the Diocese of Bridgeport on what parents are really asking the Church for. Dr. Patrick Donovan, director of the Institute for Catholic Formation for the Diocese of Bridgeport, talks about why innovation makes the Church nervous, what a survey of about 15,000 parents revealed, how the diocese is renewing faith formation parish by parish, and how Bishop Frank Caggiano is using short videos, an animated series and AI to reach families. Full show notes and resources: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-073-reimagining-faith-formation-teach-the-parents-too-with-patrick-donovan Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC307YUsy2980SICsZElRPGA CHAPTERS 0:00 Cold open: "family formation" as a hostage situation 0:54 Welcome and introduction 2:31 Meet Patrick Donovan 5:42 Why innovation makes the Church nervous 15:03 How Bishop Caggiano recruited him 17:54 A "womb to tomb" parish renewal process 23:01 What 15,000 parents said: "Teach me how to pray" 26:04 Bite-sized formation and a school without walls 32:13 Bishop Frank Teaches the Faith, an animated series 40:00 Using AI responsibly 48:04 What gives Patrick hope RESOURCES MENTIONED Formation Reimagined (Institute for Catholic Formation): https://formationreimagined.org/ Start with Sunday (home of Bishop Frank Teaches the Faith): https://startwithsunday.org/ The Face of Prayer (text PRAY to 55778): https://formationreimagined.org/the-face-of-prayer/ First Witnesses: https://firstwitnesses.org/ Ron Rolheiser, The Holy Longing: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0385494181?tag=04130706-20 (affiliate link) Ep 072, What Parents Really Want From Youth Ministry with Robert Feduccia: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-072-what-parents-really-want-from-youth-ministry-with-robert-feduccia CONNECT WITH PATRICK Formation Reimagined: https://formationreimagined.org/ Start with Sunday: https://startwithsunday.org/ MORE FROM MARATHON YOUTH MINISTRY M2GO: training videos, templates and resources for your ministry team: https://marathonyouthministry.com/ministry2go?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep073 Ministry Coach: https://ministryally.app?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep073 MYM store: https://marathonyouthministry.store?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep073 The Church Podcast is a member of the NFCYM Podcast Network: https://nfcym.org/podcastnetwork/ More from the show: http://thechurchpodcast.org/ Recorded on Riverside (affiliate link): https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=christopher-wesley Produced by Marathon Youth Ministry and Stephen Herrera of Be Well Creative: https://bewellcreative.co/ As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.
What Parents Really Want From Youth Ministry | Robert Feduccia, Ep 072
"If the church could help me get beyond the one-word answer with my son, I would come to everything you did." Robert Feduccia shares what marginally engaged parents really want from the Church. Robert Feduccia, president of EQ Saints, listened to Catholic parents from San Diego to Boston who drop their kids off but aren't at Mass on Sunday. He shares the assumptions that research overturned, how he runs a parent-teen night that gets families talking, why the classroom has become the "source and summit" of parish life, and why we need to answer the "so what" of the Eucharist. Full show notes and resources: https://blog.marathonyouthministry.com/churchpodcast/episode-072-what-parents-really-want-from-youth-ministry-with-robert-feduccia Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3-fVOpoiHE CHAPTERS 0:00 Welcome and introduction 1:58 Meet Robert Feduccia 9:41 Who stays Catholic, and why 15:16 Listening to marginally engaged parents 18:36 What parents actually want from church 24:14 A parent-teen night that works 34:20 Why parishes fall short 39:55 The "so what" of the Eucharist 51:11 Trade an adversarial posture for empathy 54:35 Robert's hope for the Church RESOURCES MENTIONED EQ Saints: https://eqsaints.com/ Springtide Research Institute, Catholic Edition 2021: https://springtideresearch.org/product/catholic-edition-2021 Search Institute, 40 Developmental Assets: https://searchinstitute.org Joseph Ratzinger, Eschatology: Death and Eternal Life: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0813215161?tag=04130706-20 (affiliate link) CONNECT WITH ROBERT https://eqsaints.com/ rfeduccia@eqsaints.com MORE FROM MARATHON YOUTH MINISTRY M2GO: training videos, templates and resources for your ministry team: https://marathonyouthministry.com/ministry2go?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep072 Ministry Coach: https://ministryally.app?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep072 MYM store: https://marathonyouthministry.store?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=audio&utm_campaign=church-podcast&utm_content=ep072 The Church Podcast is a member of the NFCYM Podcast Network: https://nfcym.org/podcastnetwork/ More from the show: http://thechurchpodcast.org/ Recorded on Riverside (affiliate link): https://www.riverside.fm/?utm_campaign=campaign_5&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_source=rewardful&via=christopher-wesley Produced by Marathon Youth Ministry and Stephen Herrera of Be Well Creative: https://bewellcreative.co/ As an Amazon Associate, we earn from qualifying purchases.-2.png)